and i've worked in the political environment. i was a county party chairman, the only female, in 1989. so what you have to have, and whether it's the military or whether it's corporate america, you've got to have a critical mass of women who are helping to raise up other women and to open those doors kind of to gently push up and to challenge. >> xerox, ibm, the new head of yahoo!. it's changing. >> and they're successful in their ventures, and they'll pave the way. >> and these are women that lean in and are not afraid of what it looks like. >> they're not afraid of getting it done. >> exactly. congresswoman marsha blackburn, thank you so much. >> good to be with you. >> thank you, marsha. >>> still ahead, putting the new in "new republic," the magazine that's been around since 1914 gets a face-lift. the magazine's publisher, chris hughes, and editor tfank, frank join us. ocker from the home depot... ...the best selling paint and primer in one that now eliminates stains. so it paints over stained surfaces, scuffed surfaces, just